You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. ~Author UnknownSometimes you find that your friend has wandered into a position where no reason can reach, and sometimes it is you that blindly fumble into a situation that you did not foresee. The bottom line is that only very rarely can one be guided out of an unreasonable situation with logic. Like a stubborn mule mired in the mud, when we find ourselves in a bad spot that either our lack of planning or our faith brought us to, we humans often just put our heads down and try to plow on through with the same lack of reason and logic. Our only hope is to open our minds to our own flaws and hope that we can learn to listen when others offer a helping hand. And when it is our turn to illuminate the path of another, we must refrain from forceful reason and ease our fellow man into the logic that eluded them.
Good luck, and have a great week.